Still here. Still a Sauvignon Blanc wino.
So I have some castoreum absolute (50% in benzyl benzoate) on the way. But I have to admit, I prefer the Givco (I think) castoreum base. I guess it's "Disneyfied," but I just see so much possibility with it. Whereas the natural I'm just like, 'it smells sweaty.' I think I need to further dilute the natural. Am I the only one who thinks this?
Hermitage has some natural civet absolute for sale. I'm toying with the idea of buying a milliliter just to have the reference scent at hand. After all, I've had the base (Firmenich? I got it from Perfumer's Apprentice), and I don't think that's EXTREMELY offensive. Sure, it's unpleasant, but not all THAT bad, really. Not something that I'd keep in a jar inside a jar (like the isobutyl quinoline, which I find quite pleasant even at 100% but which is so strong that I keep it inside a couple jars). At Symrise I smelled a sample that just smelled like bad teeth. Or, if you will, "over 45 teeth" (I put the 45 in there since I'm, um, "over 39," and I'd prefer to think that I have 5 years before that 'teeth' smell arrives). Anyway, the natural is supposed to smell 'repulsive,' so it would be nice to have the reference smell.
But back to Givco bases. I had some Sampaquita and used it all to simply dilute in alcohol to make scents with (it's that good). And sure, it smells like jasmine, but, like I've said before, jasmine "with all the lights turned on." I will say, however, that in a composition I think it smells more like regular jasmine flower. So why does anyone use natural jasmine?!?! Now if only PA would carry a tuberose, a fully accurate carnation and a tonka base, then all the problems of the world would be solved! I imagine that if I had the perfect tabac-new mown hay base, then I could just quit with all my experimentation, because there would be my perfect scent!
So I also have some of their 'styrax essence' on order. And I'm not 110% sure if that's a purified natural or a base or whahappen, but I'm interested to see how it will smell. It's in their 'leather key accord,' so I'm hoping it will be more a leather than a cinnamic-tolu balsam-type. But since I intend to maybe use it in a spicy leather thing that I have, then probably either will do. But I'm hoping it smells exactly like Tom Ford Private Label Tuscan Leather (which it won't), because I adore that (along with Tobacco Vanille). And not only do I adore it, but I find it deceptively simple. I smell it and think, "I could just dilute some Suederal." But no. I've diluted Suederal, and it didn't smell the same. So if anyone has a formula for a convincing formula for a fake, please do comment....
I had the same experience with Chanel's Sycomore. I smelled it and was like, "I could make that!" Even though I knew in the back of my head that I could not, in fact, make it. But it seemed so simple! I can't in fact recall the smell now, except that maybe it was vetivery and definitely woody-green-foresty, and that I'm sure I thought I could reproduce it with isocyclocitral, vetiver and galbanum. Oh, to be as close to the Chanel boutique as I was when in NYC!!!! Alas.
But anyway, I have castoreum, styrax and the citrus key accord they have on the way. I do love the citrus accord. If you look at the formula, it's almost all limonene, but that's fine, because it smells sweet and dry citrus and wonderful, and it will go with my Celeditude scent, which might be a bit too round and needs more sharp citrus. So there you go. But apart from that, it's all about the leather. And spices and tobacco. And, of course, powdery musk. So if any reader out there has any strange quinolines or spicy notes or rare musks that they want to share/get rid of, hit me up in the comments. I'm always up for spicy notes! (I love me some Methyl Diantilis, and I'm tinkering with the idea of getting some Safranal and zingerone.)
Beep!
E
So I have some castoreum absolute (50% in benzyl benzoate) on the way. But I have to admit, I prefer the Givco (I think) castoreum base. I guess it's "Disneyfied," but I just see so much possibility with it. Whereas the natural I'm just like, 'it smells sweaty.' I think I need to further dilute the natural. Am I the only one who thinks this?
Hermitage has some natural civet absolute for sale. I'm toying with the idea of buying a milliliter just to have the reference scent at hand. After all, I've had the base (Firmenich? I got it from Perfumer's Apprentice), and I don't think that's EXTREMELY offensive. Sure, it's unpleasant, but not all THAT bad, really. Not something that I'd keep in a jar inside a jar (like the isobutyl quinoline, which I find quite pleasant even at 100% but which is so strong that I keep it inside a couple jars). At Symrise I smelled a sample that just smelled like bad teeth. Or, if you will, "over 45 teeth" (I put the 45 in there since I'm, um, "over 39," and I'd prefer to think that I have 5 years before that 'teeth' smell arrives). Anyway, the natural is supposed to smell 'repulsive,' so it would be nice to have the reference smell.
But back to Givco bases. I had some Sampaquita and used it all to simply dilute in alcohol to make scents with (it's that good). And sure, it smells like jasmine, but, like I've said before, jasmine "with all the lights turned on." I will say, however, that in a composition I think it smells more like regular jasmine flower. So why does anyone use natural jasmine?!?! Now if only PA would carry a tuberose, a fully accurate carnation and a tonka base, then all the problems of the world would be solved! I imagine that if I had the perfect tabac-new mown hay base, then I could just quit with all my experimentation, because there would be my perfect scent!
So I also have some of their 'styrax essence' on order. And I'm not 110% sure if that's a purified natural or a base or whahappen, but I'm interested to see how it will smell. It's in their 'leather key accord,' so I'm hoping it will be more a leather than a cinnamic-tolu balsam-type. But since I intend to maybe use it in a spicy leather thing that I have, then probably either will do. But I'm hoping it smells exactly like Tom Ford Private Label Tuscan Leather (which it won't), because I adore that (along with Tobacco Vanille). And not only do I adore it, but I find it deceptively simple. I smell it and think, "I could just dilute some Suederal." But no. I've diluted Suederal, and it didn't smell the same. So if anyone has a formula for a convincing formula for a fake, please do comment....
I had the same experience with Chanel's Sycomore. I smelled it and was like, "I could make that!" Even though I knew in the back of my head that I could not, in fact, make it. But it seemed so simple! I can't in fact recall the smell now, except that maybe it was vetivery and definitely woody-green-foresty, and that I'm sure I thought I could reproduce it with isocyclocitral, vetiver and galbanum. Oh, to be as close to the Chanel boutique as I was when in NYC!!!! Alas.
But anyway, I have castoreum, styrax and the citrus key accord they have on the way. I do love the citrus accord. If you look at the formula, it's almost all limonene, but that's fine, because it smells sweet and dry citrus and wonderful, and it will go with my Celeditude scent, which might be a bit too round and needs more sharp citrus. So there you go. But apart from that, it's all about the leather. And spices and tobacco. And, of course, powdery musk. So if any reader out there has any strange quinolines or spicy notes or rare musks that they want to share/get rid of, hit me up in the comments. I'm always up for spicy notes! (I love me some Methyl Diantilis, and I'm tinkering with the idea of getting some Safranal and zingerone.)
Beep!
E
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I bought 5mls civet from Hermitage Oils; and can confirm it smells disgustingly faecal. I'm a little unsettled by the info on the web that apparently the farmers frequently adulterate the absolute before sale.
Anyway I tried a Chypre formula with Oakmoss, bergamot, labdanum, musk ketone and ethanol; disappointing (I think I needed much more citrus etc) and after a day all one can smell is Oakmoss and civet. In 54 drops of total, 10 were of 1% civet in a perfumer's alcohol mix.
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